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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 26th, 2014, 7:23 pm
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A strange but very interesting (warships/subs design) thread, good drawings :D
If these designs seem very strange today, during the 1850s-1890s era they (privates attemps) allowed to make very large (design) advances !


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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 2:09 am
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Eswube, does that book mention the hinged ship Connector or the SS Ernest Bazin roller ship by any chance?

Thiel, I wonder if the barge you are thinking of was one of the whaleback barges, Detroit had an assortment of cargo ships and barges that used that odd hull design, in fact there was even a ferry that used it.

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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 9:43 am
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Those are the ones. Quite an intereting design.

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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 3:43 pm
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Honestly they look a little ugly!


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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 4:23 pm
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I've never heard of these, thanks for posting these drawings and information. :D

They remind me of the Confederate semi-submersible ironclad torpedo boat "David".


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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 5:01 pm
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St. Julien Ravenel and David Ebaugh actually used the cigar ships designed by the Winans' as a basis for the CSS David.

I really enjoy researching and drawing some of the odd and obscure designs of the 1800's, it's amazing what they experimented with back then, even if some ideas were failures or met limited success they are still very intriguing.

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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 5:43 pm
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@ONI-Defense
It does mention them. Actually the whaleback barges are mentioned too. :)

(I can make a list of what's mentioned there - at least those with pictures, but it would take some time)


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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 27th, 2014, 9:47 pm
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You don't have to but I do appreciate the offer.

I might see if the English copy is available on my tablet though.

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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 28th, 2014, 2:49 am
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ONI-Defense wrote:
St. Julien Ravenel and David Ebaugh actually used the cigar ships designed by the Winans' as a basis for the CSS David.

I really enjoy researching and drawing some of the odd and obscure designs of the 1800's, it's amazing what they experimented with back then, even if some ideas were failures or met limited success they are still very intriguing.
Heard of the turret deck ship?

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Post subject: Re: The Winans' Cigar ShipsPosted: August 28th, 2014, 3:28 am
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Not until now. A really strange and cool design.

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