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I'll make those changes when I am alittle more coherent...I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't build at least one...

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I doubt you'll achieve 12 rpm with that loading procedure.
When the gun has fired and recoiled it has to swing up to vertical, stabilize, eject the spent cartridge (if the propellant comes in cartridges) load a new shell and propellant, swing back down and stabilize again before it can fire again. The gun and recoil mechanism are easily going to weigh five tons, if not more. That's a lot of mass to accelerate, decelerate and stabilize in 5-6 seconds.

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Source Materiel is always welcome.

12 rounds is the maximum, assuming you're firing an guided shell at a relatively high angle (60-65 degrees, time from load angle to firing angle is 1.5 seconds). What would, just out of curiosity, the weight difference be with a conventional autoload mechanism?

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Well, BAE claims that their 155mm FMF gun would weigh around 26 tons.
It uses a conventional autoloader and is capable of ~12 rpm.

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Perhaps a change to a conventional autoloader might be in order...with that, the gun wouldn't need to change elevation between rounds, would it?

Here's an update, with alittle less craziness on the mast.

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Arrgg, Maties! Thar be pirates here!



This 164 foot yacht, captured in October, 2010, was modified by pirates to be a hunter. Armed with the usual assortment of rifles and RPGs, she also packs three machine guns and, mysteriously, acquired a Russian 88mm Recoilless Rifle (presumably from a terrorist network). The ship is tops on the Tequilapoli's most wanted list.

Intel report:
This is a 2007 Proteksan Turqouise Odessa 50 meter motor yacht. Not the fastest thing on the seas, at only 15 knots, the Pirates tend to station this vessel along shipping lanes and use it's guns to force compliance from vessels they intend to capture. Usually a warning shot from an RPG-7 or the stern-mounted rifle gets most ships to heave to prior to boarding. The vessel does carry a 21 foot Castoldi Jet Tender (Capable of up to 40 knots) which is used for boarding operations. The vessel's owners have stated that they want the yacht if found. The Tequilapolian Navy is unsure that a successful capture of the vessel is possible. History has shown that the pirates operating near Tequilapolian waters are reluctant to surrender, and would rather go down shooting. The addition of the large rifle on the rear deck of this yacht seems to indicate an escalation of this policy.

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Working on the World War II Battleship, TNS Victoria. Here's the Springsharp report for you to review first.

TNS Victoria, Tequilapoli Battleship laid down 1940

Displacement:
55,747 t light; 58,642 t standard; 61,930 t normal; 64,561 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(859.56 ft / 845.00 ft) x 105.00 ft x (35.00 / 36.30 ft)
(261.99 m / 257.56 m) x 32.00 m x (10.67 / 11.06 m)

Armament:
9 - 16.00" / 406 mm 45.0 cal guns - 2,065.46lbs / 936.88kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft evenly spread
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
1 raised mount aft
16 - 5.00" / 127 mm 38.0 cal guns - 59.33lbs / 26.91kg shells, 150 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
4 - 5.00" / 127 mm 38.0 cal guns - 59.33lbs / 26.91kg shells, 150 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
1 x Twin mount on sides, evenly spread
1 raised mount
1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck aft
1 double raised mount
40 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 2.19lbs / 0.99kg shells, 150 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
10 x Quad mounts on sides amidships
25 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 0.27lbs / 0.12kg shells, 150 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
25 x Single mounts on sides amidships
Weight of broadside 19,870 lbs / 9,013 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 14.0" / 356 mm 450.00 ft / 137.16 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 82 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
8.00" / 203 mm 546.00 ft / 166.42 m 29.15 ft / 8.88 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 16.0" / 406 mm 10.0" / 254 mm 10.0" / 254 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm 5.00" / 127 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 5.00" / 127 mm 5.00" / 127 mm 2.00" / 51 mm

- Armoured deck - multiple decks: 6.00" / 152 mm For and Aft decks
Forecastle: 6.00" / 152 mm Quarter deck: 6.00" / 152 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 8.00" / 203 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 249,632 shp / 186,225 Kw = 31.91 kts
Range 4,500nm at 20.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,919 tons

Complement:
1,962 - 2,551

Cost:
£28.341 million / $113.364 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3,954 tons, 6.4 %
Armour: 20,266 tons, 32.7 %
- Belts: 3,358 tons, 5.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 4,711 tons, 7.6 %
- Armament: 3,983 tons, 6.4 %
- Armour Deck: 7,943 tons, 12.8 %
- Conning Tower: 270 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 6,675 tons, 10.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 24,853 tons, 40.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,183 tons, 10.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
103,428 lbs / 46,914 Kg = 50.5 x 16.0 " / 406 mm shells or 18.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 6.9 ft / 2.1 m
Roll period: 16.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.81
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.698 / 0.702
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.05 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.07 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 40.00 ft / 12.19 m, 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Forward deck: 35.00 %, 30.00 ft / 9.14 m, 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 30.00 ft / 9.14 m, 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 30.00 ft / 9.14 m, 31.00 ft / 9.45 m
- Average freeboard: 30.88 ft / 9.41 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 206.8 %
Waterplane Area: 70,988 Square feet or 6,595 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 253 lbs/sq ft or 1,237 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.19
- Longitudinal: 1.95
- Overall: 1.25
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Here's the first version of the CLAA...



LOA: 607.5 Feet
Max Beam: 66.5 feet
Draft: 26.5 feet

Armament:
5x3 5"/38 Cal DP gunmounts
12x4 40mm/56 cal AA

Speed: 30+ knots

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It still strikes me as underdetailed (or at least misdetailed). But it seems fine, I suppose.
CREDIT! I and anybody else for that matter can tell you didn't originally draw this just by comparing the quality of this drawing to the quality of the drawings above and below it!
Once again it looks underdetailed, and oddly proportioned, not the least of which are the portholes. This will exaggerate it into a "cartoony" look.

You also do some really outright bizarre things - like have a raised platform that looks obvious for a director, but then have the actual director sitting a deck below it.

I only have 1 issue with your critique.

The pirate vessel's credit is correct. If you recall, it is the same Odessa yacht I did in the real design section. I know I'm not the greatest artist, and my free form work probably outright sucks, but the yacht is my own work, sir.

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