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Hawkeye
Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 1:46 pm
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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 2:46 pm
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We actually have SLQ-32(v)1 & (v)2 lying around.
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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 5:29 pm
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Hawkeye, some interesting drawings, but we've got the SLQ-32s covered:

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I do need to draw the I-Band update, and I really think I'm going to pull your other images for the Misc. USN Electronics sheet that I'm going to make soon.

Edit: If you've got some sources you can direct me to for size, I am open to evaluating your components for replacing the ones we have now.

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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 5:57 pm
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I'm pretty sure this man is not twelve feet tall.

An effort should be made to confirm that new parts are actually better than the old ones before suggesting their use.


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Hawkeye
Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 6:15 pm
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@ TimothyC & erik_t:

My source is the book "Kampfsysteme der US Navy" ("Battlesystems of the US Navy")
by Stefan Terzibaschitsch, Page 197, 198, 199, 200 and 228 for AN/SLQ-32
and Page 227, 229 and 230 for the other devices.
I try to scan the pics without to destroy my book.

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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 7:09 pm
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TimothyC wrote:
Hawkeye - yeah, they are annoying little buggers - I pulled my data (and sources) from Preston E. Law's book Shipboard Antennas (thank goodness for libraries and book depositories).

Having hit a brick wall with adding/replacing parts on the sheet, I'm making an all new one (with the same format). Figure at least this weekend before I post any updates.

Colo - I plan on having the following guns on the new USN sheet:
  • 16"/50 Mk 7
  • 8"/55 Mk 71
  • 8"/55RF Mk 16
  • 8"/55 Mk 13/15
  • 6"/47DP Mk 16
  • 6"/47 Mk 16
  • All 5" guns from the 5"/38 on inclusive.
While some of these are WW2 era guns, they were left on post-war ships, and as such for completeness I'm going to leave them on. Can I get a clean version of your 8"/55 Mk 12/15 please Colo?

What I am not sure should go on, and thing would be a better fit on the WW2 sheet would be the following:
  • 16"/45 Mk 6
  • 12"/50 Mk 8
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The 8"/55 Mk.12/15 is on the WWII sheet that I made.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16140164/Drawin ... Sheet1.png

If you mean the 6"/47RF/DP from the Worcester, here it is:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16140164/Drawin ... /647DP.png

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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 8:37 pm
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1st revision:

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Pics:

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Links:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship ... slq-32.htm

http://books.google.de/books?id=4S3h8j_ ... 32&f=false

I cannot find a pic of the AS-3316 Antenna in the net. I try to get a handscanner for the pic in my book.

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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 9:15 pm
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Other devices:

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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 9:24 pm
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hawkeye, my 2 cents: I actually like the original SLQ-32 better. why? first of all the size of the original one is max 1 pixel off. that is proven by several ships I have worked on that have the system. only the foot might be a little short, but this is something easy to fix if needed for a ship.
second, because it is just completely fixed about 2 months ago. parts are replaced most of the time because there is better intel on their size available, or there are mistakes around, or the part is just really of the old days of the bucket and needs updating. none of these apply to the SLQ-32 currently.

and last but not least, because yours doesn't look like it. as main point: you cannot see that the sides are offset from the middle on yours, because the curve is not shown, only the 'arrays'.

also an question: what is that mast you drew on the previous page? it looks a lot like you have renewed systems that were all recently renewed or have drawings of them on ships already(for example the IFF, which is on the new Kongo and I believe, in an slightly different view, on the latest DDG-51 drawing) , and the mast doesn't seem to represent any kind of ship....

also, for the future, I advice (as I am not an mod on this thread, the only thread I can really ask you to do or not to do things is on the Dutch parts sheets) to ask TimothyC and/or Erik_T what systems need to be drawn. I am certain there will be enough to do, instead of redoing work that doesn't need redoing. I am not saying that all you have done here is bad work, neither am I saying that it is all useless, but well...... just my opinion ;)

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Post subject: Re: USN SystemsPosted: February 8th, 2012, 9:47 pm
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Too many people on this forum spend too much time pooh-poohing minor parts inconsistencies instead of drawing ships.

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